Originally posted at 10:04 AM but updated (see below)
File this under “Articles That Canadian And Other Liberal-Left Media Around The World Will Never Publish, Because They Are Trying To Hide The Truth From You, For Example The CBC Has Not Published This Article Nor Any Of The Facts Contained Therein Though They Easily Could.”
You do have a file with that heading don’t you? Well you should. Of course it will occupy a filing cabinet which would require its own postal code —much like the liberal media’s file on just exactly how evil and stupid Sarah Palin is; and the liberal-left progressives in Canada, should they ever regain the power and authority and control over you and your lives that they so desperately seek, will probably make you register it and obtain a federal license to maintain it (for which they will charge you a huge fee, plus GST). So I do understand your reluctance.
Will the Supreme Court Recognize the Truth About Chicago’s Handgun Ban?
What the crime data show is that gun laws primarily disarm law-abiding citizens, they do not make them safer.By John Lott – FOXNews.com
In the 2008 “Heller” decision, the Supreme Court struck down Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban and gunlock requirements. Unsurprisingly, gun control advocates predicted disaster. They were wrong. What actually happened in our nation’s capital after the Heller decision ought to be remembered tomorrow as the Supreme Court hears a similar constitutional challenge to the Chicago handgun ban.
When the Heller case was decided, Washington’s Mayor Adrian Fenty warned: “More handguns in the District of Columbia will only lead to more handgun violence.” Knowing that Chicago’s gun laws would soon face a similar legal challenge, Mayor Richard Daley was particularly vocal. The day that the Heller decision was handed down, Daley said that he and other mayors across the country were “outraged” by the decision and he predicted more deaths along with Wild West-style shootouts. Daley warned that people “are going to take a gun and they are going to end their lives in a family dispute.”
But Armageddon never arrived. Quite the contrary, murders in Washington plummeted by an astounding 25 percent in 2009, dropping from 186 murders in 2008 to 140. That translates to a murder rate that is now down to 23.5 per 100,000 people, Washinton’s lowest since 1967. While other cities have also fared well over the last year, D.C.‘s drop was several times greater than that for other similar sized cities. According to preliminary estimates by the FBI, nationwide murders fell by a relatively more modest 10 percent last year and by about 8 percent in other similarly sized cities of half a million to one million people (D.C.‘s population count is at about 590,000).
This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone who has followed how crime rates change after gun bans have been imposed. Around the world, whenever guns are banned, murder rates rise. …
I think you should all take the required gun safety course and buy yourselves some guns. Target shooting is a fantastic family sport and hobby. My wife and I are both licensed to acquire and possess hand guns and long guns. But then we’re bang-on about most things.
UPDATE: Toronto Star leaves out absolutely essential FACTS in their news reporting propaganda
The liberals’ very own Toronto Star uses what I’m pretty darn sure are purposely deceptive tactics to once again spew the lying liberal-left talking points about how many times the police “use” the registry. Or to put it another way, they misinform through an omission of actual facts. Apparently they are trying to mimic the CBC. Of course I could be wrong, and this is all just how I see things. But if they aren’t purposely trying to deceive the public, then I think they are shamefully ignorant of pertinent facts or are just plain stupid and lazy, and therefore they have absolutely no business reporting news.
And yet the Toronto Star has the gall to headline their news story “Gun bill hanky-panky”. Yeah —it’s the Conservatives and the gun bill that’s full of “hanky-panky”.
…Critics of the long-gun registry insisted that it is of little use to the police and not worth maintaining. This argument was effectively rebutted in an RCMP report on the registry that was released two days after the vote.
…Van Loan’s officials used every trick in the book to stall the report. They disputed its statistics and questioned why the report was produced at all. They even launched a witch hunt over an innocuous banquet held by the gun registry’s staff. (It turned out that the staffers had paid for the event themselves.)
For the record, the report noted that police use of the gun registry is increasing rapidly – to 3.4 million checks in 2008, up from 2.5 million the year before – and it said this “highlights the importance” of the registry to law enforcement.
But that wasn’t what the government wanted parliamentarians to hear before the vote on the gun registry. …
This was followed by what could only be described as an amazing outpouring of conservative-style thinking at the far-left Toronto Star — by its own readers, who apparently refuse to be treated like total idiots.
When even the uber-left Toronto Star’s readers know better (maybe they also watch Fox News Channel? There’s simply no figuring this!), you know you need a change in propaganda tactics.
One Toronto Star commenter wrote this:
by Cdnexpat
Half truth again
Of course police use the registry. What is never mentioned is that they have no choice. It is an automatic check that is done when certain search criteria is requested. It can’t be bypassed. What is never told is the the information is never helpful. Police today are always on guard for weapons and potential danger, so it makes very little difference if the registry identifies a gun owner (remember it’s a long gun that’s probably locked up in safe). It really has never assisted police in crime prevention. It has always been and will always be useless.
FACTS keep oozing out thanks to the annoying citizens, which must be very embarrassing for the Toronto Star
by Bear Child
Self Serving Statistics
We, the public, have been constantly lied to concerning the usage statistics with respect to the Gun Registry. Every time a police officer make a vehicle stop in Canada and enters the licence number of the vehicle in his on board computer, a CPIC check of the Gun Registry is made automatically. Any officer with two clues and a survival instinct ignores the inquiry results and assumes there is weapons present as he approaches the vehicle! These highly inflated usage statistics are totally bogus, and are claimed by the bureaucracy to keep the money (and jobs) flowing to a useless and inaccurate database.
Oh God. More facts. Facts suck —am I right, Toronto Star?
by Soulchaser
Myth: Police check the registry 10,000 times per day
FACT: The registry is tied to all other police information databases like CPIC so whenever police run drivers licence checks, check to see if someone has a warrant ect, it will create an automatic hit on the gun registry even though no request for information from the gun registry was made. The Liberals, with the help of Wendy Cukier did this to intentionally inflate the registry’s numbers. According to the RCMP’s own statistics, the registry is DIRECTLY accessed, on average, only 19 times per day. Look at “certificate checks” here: https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/facts-faits/index-eng.htm About 2/3rds of the way down the page under CFRO Queries. ALL OTHER INFO in the chart is, and always has been availadbe to police through CPIC.
Another wrote this, and I highlighted my favorite sentence of the day, for which I will actually provide an Oscar-style PTBC award trinket later on today.:
by hjk50
@tired of whiners
You brought up the shooting at Eclole Polytechnic in Montreal; don’t you find it odd that the Liberal response to those murders was to prohibit all the firearms that (by size and caliber) women can use to protect themselves? The Liberal response was to make it law that women will never have the means to protect themselves from killers like Gamil Gharbi. I guess Liberals like seeing women helpless. Anyway Alan Rock promised that the registry would guarantee that there would never be another school shooting in Canada again. How many ways does the registry have to fail before we scrap it?
I like this plain-speak:
by agememnan
The only hanky-panky is..
a 2 billion dollar database, endorsed by a ‘Chiefs of Police Association’ who has been bought by CGI corp (who runs the database) instead of hiring 2 billion dollars worth of police officers. Why not hire *actual* officers and give jobless canadians gainful employment? Oh right …. grampa didn’t register his shotgun.
And these facts:
by JackOram
Use is not proof of usefulness.
The overwhelming majority of the times the registry was used was during routine checks, an automated consequence of looking up an individual’s name, or license plate. How many criminals were identified (I don’t mean law abiding citizens who forgot to register the hunting rifle the had had for 30 years)? None. They don’t register. Duh. Registration has nothing to do with who can own guns – that part is related to licensing, which is quite strict. Registration is simply an exercise in optics to make it look like the government is doing something, and a future tool to be used by a sufficiently anti-gun government to start a confiscatory attack on gun owners. That’s how it has been in other countries. If you believe the government has too much power over our lives, you should support efforts to get rid of this registry.
Here’s a stats or mathematical-minded citizen:
by Billy Thunder
3.4 million hits
3.4 million checks run through the system in 2008. If each check took only 2.5 minutes of a police oficer’s time, that would add up to over 70 years of police man hours. I’m not going to do the math, but that seems like a HIDDEN COST of millions of dollars per year. Millions wasted running checks on people who have already been checked and approved as safe to own a firearm. Stop the maddness, end the registry. Admit the Liberals instituted the registry to gain votes, and to facilitate a future total ban on privately owned firearms.
And another one has more math and stats and facts, which must be ever so pernicious to the Toronto Star.
by Cdnexpat
As Sheila Fraser said in her report to parliament on the registry, activity doesn’t equal usefulness. Let’s look at those 3.4 million checks. Assuming each one took five minutes they totaled 283,333 police hours of work. A worker normally works 2000 hours a year so it roughly equals 141 police years of work or the only work that 141 officers did last year. In return for over 140 officers doing nothing but registry checks for a whole year the registry solved and prevented zero crimes. This report doesn’t defend the registry it just highlights how badly we need to scrape the useless wasteful registry.
The conservative-like thinking just keeps pouring in…
by Midlandman
The long gun registry is another example of how the libs think. They didn’t have a clue on how to stop crime, so they did what they usually do, put makeup on a pig and call it beautiful. And as usual, it ended up costing us lots of $ with no results. Maybe I shouldn’t say that. It did result in the libs keeping up with their hug-a-thug ideology, and made criminals out of innocent people. And meanwhile, the bad guys are still running around with illegal guns.
And then this happened:
You’d think the Toronto Star would withdraw the “news” story and apologize to Canada for purposely trying to deceive them through an omission of pertinent facts. File that under “Not Gonna Happen.”
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